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Jeremy Vine sparks outrage as guest sensationally claims ‘incels aren’t the problem, women are’ – and insists female behaviour ‘gets worse and worse as time goes on’

Jeremy Vine sparks outrage as guest sensationally claims ‘incels aren’t the problem, women are’ – and insists female behaviour ‘gets worse and worse as time goes on’

Jeremy Vine’s show sparked outrage after a guest claimed ‘incels aren’t the problem, women are’ and insisted female behaviour ‘gets worse and worse as time goes on’.

During the recent instalment of the daily Channel 5 programme, Jeremy, Reem Ibrahim and Matthew Torbitt had a conversation with Adam, from Devon, who phoned in.

‘What do you know of incels Adam?’ Jeremy asked.

The guest replied: ‘Most of the time I think it’s just men trying to express themselves and being labelled misogynist because of programmes such as the one now.’

He went on to add that he believes  ‘if you want to address the issue of incels, if there is such an issue of incels and it’s not just a label which has been given to a certain group of men, then you need to look at the larger social structures that are causing it’.

The incel movement is an online community of men who feel bitterness towards women due to a lack of Sєxual reciprocation – which they claim they deserve.

Jeremy Vine's show sparked outrage after a guest claimed 'incels aren't the problem, women are' and insisted female behaviour 'gets worse and worse as time goes on'

Jeremy Vine’s show sparked outrage after a guest claimed ‘incels aren’t the problem, women are’ and insisted female behaviour ‘gets worse and worse as time goes on’ 

During the recent instalment of the daily Channel 5 programme, Jeremy, Reem Ibrahim (pictured) and Matthew Torbitt had a conversation with Adam, from Devon, who phoned in

During the recent instalment of the daily Channel 5 programme, Jeremy, Reem Ibrahim (pictured) and Matthew Torbitt had a conversation with Adam, from Devon, who phoned in

Participants may subscribe to the ‘black pill’ worldview – a philosophy that implies the men have dismal romantic prospects and there is nothing they can do to improve them.

The online subculture is rooted in reclusive men blaming women for their lack of Sєxual access.

It comes after Netflix hit Adolescence recently topped charts with its chilling depiction of radicalisation and incel culture involving young boys.

Each episode of the four-part series was filmed in a single continuous take.

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The drama centres on 13-year-old Jamie Miller (Owen Cooper), who is accused of murdering a schoolgirl, and is the brainchild of Stephen Graham, who plays the boy’s father.

Stephen previously revealed the idea for the series came to him from looking at the epidemic of knife crime in the UK.

Jeremy asked: ‘Would you describe yourself as an incel?’

Adam clarified that he ‘wouldn’t describe’ himself as an incel ‘because in the past I’ve not been celibate and I’m biSєxual. So no, I wouldn’t’.

When Matthew asked what he feels people are trying to stop him from expressing, Adam shared his thoughts. 

‘Expressing their feelings, expressing how they feel about women and expressing their experiences and why their experiences have turned them off women,’ Adam explained.

But when Matthew challenged if he felt that type of thinking ‘leans into misogyny’ the guest responded: ‘I think you need to look at misandry instead and the fact that women constantly want bad boys and it becomes like a compeтιтion as to who can behave the baddest…’

When Matthew (pictured) asked what he feels people are trying to stop him from expressing, Adam shared his thoughts

When Matthew (pictured) asked what he feels people are trying to stop him from expressing, Adam shared his thoughts

Adam clarified that he 'wouldn't describe' himself as an incel 'because in the past I've not been celibate and I'm biSєxual. So no, I wouldn't'. Pictured: Jeremy Vine

Adam clarified that he ‘wouldn’t describe’ himself as an incel ‘because in the past I’ve not been celibate and I’m biSєxual. So no, I wouldn’t’. Pictured: Jeremy Vine

Reem then asked Adam about his previous relationships with women and he admitted that ‘being bullied by women in the workplace’ has impacted his view of women, as well as certain expectations he feels from women.

While Andrew Thomas, author of an ‘incel study’, shared his view and argued, ‘The one thing I would say in Adam’s favour is that a lot of men feel like when they have frustrations around women that they’re not allowed to talk about it and that’s why they retreat to some of these online spaces and that’s really where the misogynistic views fester.’

He added: ‘I think we’re becoming more and more polarised in the country, politically, spiritually, philosophically and I think we do need to be brought back together.’

Adam later clarified that he ‘doesn’t suggest women are all bad’.

He went on to claim: ‘We live in a certain society that requires men to behave in a certain way in love, via the behaviour of women and the behaviour of women gets worse and worse as time goes on quite frankly and in the home, they’re expected to be very masculine.’

When Reem asked who requires him to act in that way, he responded: ‘Women require me to act in that way, women require men to be extremely bloke-y, the more bad boy the more attractive.’

However, the conversation sparked debate amongst viewers who took to X to share their verdicts and some commented: ‘I think men have frustration from dating sites. 

Reem then asked Adam about his previous relationships with women and he admitted that 'being bullied by women in the workplace' has impacted his view of women, as well as certain expectations he feels from women

Reem then asked Adam about his previous relationships with women and he admitted that ‘being bullied by women in the workplace’ has impacted his view of women, as well as certain expectations he feels from women

However, the conversation sparked debate amongst viewers who took to X to share their verdicts

However, the conversation sparked debate amongst viewers who took to X to share their verdicts

‘The way you find your person is considerable networking, and that has reduced quite a lot in society.’

‘Think some women have hurt Adam badly and he now resents all women. And no most of us do not want a bad boy. We like good, decent men.’ 

‘Adam just dug a hole for himself on national tv.’ 

Jeremy Vine airs exclusively on Channel 5. 

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